![]() The current state emblem (officially known as the "small" or "minor" coat of arms) is a gold Trident of St. I think the small COA is the trident, here's something else I found : The main element of the Great State Coat of Arms of Ukraine is the Emblem of the Royal State of Volodymyr the Great (the Small State Coat of Arms of Ukraine).The Great State Coat of Arms of Ukraine shall be established with the consideration of the Small State Coat of Arms of Ukraine and the Coat of Arms of the Zaporozhian Host, by the law adopted by no less than two-thirds of the constitutional compositio n of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.The State Flag of Ukraine is a banner of two equally-sized horizontal bands of blue and yellow.The state symbols of Ukraine are the State Flag of Ukraine, the State Coat of Arms of Ukraine and the State Anthem of Ukraine.Could you or anyone just confirm for sure that the CoA in the main UA article is not correct? (I am not at all and expert in these things). If this CoA is not official, we should change it. I'll try to find an image of the trident. The only official (small) coat of arms is currently the trident. I am just curious why the main article about Ukraine contains a wrong image of the coat of arms: the one with a lion and a cossack. Daniel Bunčić 21:12, 27 November 2005 (UTC) Coat of Arms Consequently, the Soviet Union demanded to have 15 votes in the General Assembly. When the UN was founded, the Soviet Union argued that communism was in its essence an internationalist movement, so that although the Soviet Union was only one communist state aiming at its own abolition (when real socialism would eventually be achieved), it was the Soviet Republics that were equivalent to capitalist states. That Belarus and Ukraine had individual seats in the General Assembly of the UN is indeed a matter of votes. So of course it is correct to say that Ukraine became independent in 1991, and this was a completely legal step granted by the Soviet constitution. The fact that the Soviet Republics had the official right to become independent from the Soviet Union does not mean that they already were. The Ukraine and other Soviet Republics could leave the USSR at any time,so they were in a sense independent. Also notice "became independent from the SU", but either way the country under USSR was far from independent, not even autonomous, or anything like that. But wasn't Ukraine already recognised as an independent country by the International Community? After all wasn't Ukraine or the Ukrainian SSR already a member of the UN since its formation in 1945? Meursault2004 15:59, (UTC) I think the reason why Ukraine and other republics were a member of the UN is to get more votes or something. ![]() The text says: Ukraine became independent from the Soviet Union on August 24, 1991. Anyway, this is a topic of Russian language, not English one. "V zapolyarye", "v pribaltike", no "na dalnem vostoke", "Na Volge" i "v Povolzhye" are almost synonyms. "Na Ukraine", but "v Zaporozhye" (in the sense "in Zaporizzhya area"). But this is not a strict rule, often a matter of tradition. A seeming confirmation of this theory would be: "na smolenshchine", but "v Smolenskoj oblasti". The preposition "na" (Eng:"on") is not exclusively used in the cases of territory or direction, as opposed to "in". E.g., there is the usage, e.g., "na Rusi" (English: "On Rus"). Third, even when you "get it", the "emphasize" part is not totally correct. Second, the sentence as it stands is stated in a totally unclear way for an English speaker. All languages change all the time, and IMO there is no reason to discuss every language in every other language encyclopedia. However, since Ukrainian independence, some of the Russian language speakers have begun using a different preposition (в as opposed to на) to emphasize Ukraine's status as a country and not merely a neighboring territory.įirst, it is relevant only for Russian language usage, hence only marginal relation to English wikipedia. (See Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page.) Thank you. Please add new archivals to Talk:Ukraine/Archive03. Post replies to the main talk page, copying or summarizing the section you are This archive page covers approximately the dates between January 2005 and December 2006. 45 Is Ukraine the second largest country in Europe?ĭO NOT EDIT OR POST REPLIES TO THIS PAGE.37 Government's policy towards minority languages.30 in fact more fluent in Russian than in Ukrainian.29 The share of receiving their education in Russian.26 The proclaimed independence Ukraine (1917-1921).19 Provisional agreement suggested over the edits of Denis RS.14 It is too much falseness and antiRussian propagation.13 Na/v Ukrayini-eliminating vague language.
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